Disconnect between calculated & OS record of used & free disc space

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Disconnect between calculated & OS record of used & free disc space

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Hi:

I have a Dell 4600 PC with 1 GIG RAM, CPU = 2.4 GigaHz
2 HD's (One @ 20 Gigs is the OS site [master], & the
other is 200 Gigs [slave]), Windows XP (OEM installed
was WIN XP SP-1)--I later installed the CD SP-2 patch
& downloaded & installed the SP-3 patch. I also have
IE 8 installed.

I have used Norton AV '09 & Spysweeper to recently
scan with both of them & nothing significant was found.

My main problem is that the OS is registering low volume
on my C: drive (master) in spite of my moving gobs of data,
music & video files and programs to the other (slave)
drive (F). The F: drive volume data appears corect to me.

Also, performance of the system has slowed, become occas-
ionally erratic.

I used the CHKDISK utility in Windows ('error-checking'),
checking off both the options to 'automaticaly fix file
system errors' and 'scan for and attempt recovery of bad
sectors'--I assume this is the so-called surface scan)
and the report came back that the C: volume was "clean."

I have repeatedly used the 'Clean Manager' to rid the
drive of as much as possible, including getting system
restore to use only 1 recent resore point & eliminating
alot of the Internet temporary folders, etc.

When I have attempted to use the defrag. utility, it states
that I have only 5 to 6% free space on the C drive, when the
utility needs at least 15% free space to adequately function.

I recently calculated carefully the amount of volume used in
the C: drive and it was about 7-8 Gigs, which is less then
half the total capacity of this drive. I can furnish these
calculations upon request.

Are any of my programs causing this??
I also have (all on the F: drive):
Roxio Easy Media Creator 10
Bearshare software (file-sharing)
I-Tunes
MusicMatch Jukebox 10
Adobe Premier Elements 4 (Video Editing)
HP Photosmart All-In-One (Printer, etc)
Microsoft Intellipoint (Mouse)
Microsoft Intellitype (Keyboard)
Apple's Quicktime
RealPlayer 11 (Media)

On the C: Drive:
Adobe Reader 9.1
Microsoft LifeCam
Microsoft SilverLight
Windows LIve
Windows Media Player 11

Is there anything else to do short of erasing my C: drive,
re-formatting & re-installing windows Xp with the SP-2 & 3
patches??

Or, can I just remove the multiple windows updates
("$NtUninstall..."), keeping the SP-2 & 3 patches and going
back to Microsoft Update and have the site re-screen for
needed updates?? I ask this because the calculated volume of
these updates is about 1.5 Gigs.

If I have to re-install WinXP, must it be only on the "Master"
Drive (C) or can I use the F: drive (slave)?
Also, do I need to re-install both SP-2 & SP-3, or is SP-3
re-install sufficient after a clean WINXP install??

Finally, If I have to re-install WinXp on the C: drive, must I
also erase, re-format & re-install the F: drive data, or would
the clean WINXP install on C: be able to recognize  the data on
F:??  (I personally doubt it).

Thanks in advance for any help/info.

 

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  • Yes they are safe to delete. Have you also gone in and deleted you temp internet files and cookies?

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  • http://bdbits.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/reclaiming-space-on-your-windows-servers-c-drive/

    Quote from the above link:

    Not only can you delete these, you can prevent them from accumulating. Get properties on “My Computer”, go to the Advanced tab and click Error Reporting. Disable error reporting and click OK.


    GM

  • To both Davet50 & GreyMack:

    I followed your advice, as well as that on the refered web site,
    and lo & behold---I now have 8.5 GIGS of free space (was 1.3).

    Thanks to both of you for your help.

    I will now be able to Defrag, etc. & update my hardware at a
    more leisurely pace.

    Thanks to both.

  • I subsequently defragged both drives & everything works
    fine--so far. After some more tweaking, free space is
    now 9.0 Gigs on C: drive.

    I'll still probably upgrade my C: drive to to a maximum
    (for this Dell PC--4600 Dimension from 2003--according to
    the user manual) of 200 Gigs, and while I'm at it, also
    get more RAM (have 1 gig--can go up to 4 gigs) & a better
    video card (mine is NVIDa 64 MB's memory).

    What brand-type & amount of video memory should I get??
    I use my PC for downloading music files, do some editing
    of them (Roxio Easy Media Creator 10) as well as video
    downloading & editing (Adobe Premier Elements).

    Any suggestions welcome.

    Thanks again.

  • Dell's 200GB specification can be mis-leading. The system was only tested with hard disks up 200GB when it was originally released, which was probably the maximum capacity commonly available for that system at the time. There's no technical threshold at 200GB, so it should also work fine with hard disks of much greater capacity, theoretically up to 2TB. GM

  • Thanks for the interesting & practical info.

  • Question::

    My Bios data info:

    BIOS Vendor Dell Computer Corporation
    BIOS Version A07
    BIOS Date 11-06-03

    I downloaded a while ago--but did not install--Dell's most 'recent' update from 2004

    with the following info:

    "A12 Release Date: 09/27/2004

    The following changes have been made to BIOS rev A10 to create A12:

    1. Fixed Quick Boot menu when no bootable drives are selected in
       SETUP.
    2. Updated micro-code for newer CPUs.
    3. Eliminated possible hang on next boot when AC power is removed.
    4. Fixed intermittent hang in resuming from Standby.
    5. Improved keyboard test when booting from Hibernate.
    6. Fixed possible hang after unplugging and re-plugging USB hubs.
    7. Increased USB keyboard wait time to allow all USB devices being
       enumerated.
    8. Added to support in PXE boot environments with Spanning Tree
       enabled.
    9. Prevent false MCE errors from causing "bad CPU" error in POST.
    10. Fixed floppy access failures when CD floppy emulation is turned
        off."

    At Dell's website, they state that this not an urgent or critical update.

    I never knew about the 'BIOS rev A10 ' mentioned above.

    Other than the previously mentioned volume-space problem (resolved),

    I have had no major problems with this PC.

    is there any advantage to installing this "recent" update??

    Any disadvantage??

    Thanks for any info about this.

     

     

  • No need to reformat etc.

    Buy a new bigger drive and use a Drive Wire to Clone the Current Drive to the new drive using the included boot CD.

    http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Hard_Drives_External/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=bsd&cs=cabsdt1&sku=A1287050

     

    DriveWire is the ideal solution for transferring the data from a desktop or notebook PC to a new hard drive in a few easy steps. It makes what can otherwise be a daunting and tricky process, painless and easy. DriveWire is bundled with Apricorn's "Upgrade Suite" which features the award winning "EZ Gig II" cloning software for Windows and "Shirt Pocket's SuperDuper!" for Mac. When used together, DriveWire makes it easy to transfer your OS, data, applications, documents, address books, e-mail, settings and preferences - from the old drive to a new drive, in few easy steps. Start by attaching the new 2.5" or 3.5" hard drive to the appropriate connector on DriveWire's cable head. Then connect the AC power adapter and the USB cable. Now, boot up your computer using the "Upgrade Suite" bootable CD and make and exact clone of the old drive onto a new drive. After the transfer is completed, install the new hard drive into the desktop or notebook, and the computer will boot up just like normal. DriveWire includes Apricorn's Upgrade Suite with EZ Gig II Cloning & Upgrade software for Windows and Shirt Pocket's SuperDuper! for Mac, a hybrid adapter that connects to any 2.5", 3.5" IDE/PATA or SATA Hard Drive, USB 2.0 cable (USB 1.1 compatible) and high quality UL Listed power adapter. This unique adapter provides a SATA connector for the new style drives as well as 44 pin connector for a 2.5" Notebook IDE/PATA Hard Drive and 40 pin connector for a standard 3.5" IDE/PATA Hard Drive, allowing you to connect a hard drive to any desktop or notebook computer with a USB 2.0 port. This is the perfect solution for anyone needing immediate or temporary access to a Hard Drive. You won't need to buy a different enclosure for every Hard Drive or worry about whether or not you have enough power through your USB ports run the device. Because DriveWire is guaranteed to safely provide all the power you need and it is compatible with all of today's 2.5, 3.5 IDE/PATA or SATA Hard Drives. W

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  • Thanks for the interesting info--will look into it.

    Any comment about the Bios info I left here??

  • Bios updates are a two edge sword. there are those who say do and those who say unless it address a specfic issue you are having let it be.

    The thing to remember is a bad flash renders the motherboard useless. So one should always think about it.

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  • Question on WINXP Activation Key:

    I originally had a Dell Dimension bought in 2000, but it impoded & I had another

    one (the 4600) sent to me from Dell in 2003 (God bless warranties).

    I am going to get a new HD for the C: Drive in a few weeks and was checking out the

    location of the "activation" key.

    The classical (original) direction is to check on the side of the computer ("Appears on the

    Certificate of Authenticity  label attached to your computer and consists of five parts,
     each with five characters.') I can get these 5 parts easily.

    However, I then went into the Dell Windows XP SP-1a re-install disc to the "unattend.txt"

    and got a different set of 5 part characters.

    Which is correct??

    I am assuming the one on the CD is the correct one.

    Thanks

  • The installation from a Dell-branded XP CD will automatically activate on a Dell system, so you shouldn't need the key attached to the system. The Dell XP CD contains a bulk-license key which is not associated with any specific system.

     

    GM

  • Again, thanks you for your quick, expert reply

  • Since you all seem quite expert in things Dell PC,
    I thought I'd run these questions by you as well.

    To refresh memories:
    I have a Dell 4600 PC (2003)
    1 GIG RAM (256 mb's x 4 slots),
    CPU = 2.4 GigaHz,
    2 HD's (One @ 20 Gigs is the OS site [master],
    & the other is 200 Gigs [slave]),
    Windows XP (OEM installed was WIN XP SP-1a)--I later in-
    stalled the CD SP-2 patch & downloaded & installed the
    SP-3 patch.

    1) RAM question:

    If I buy & install the maximum amount of RAM (4 GIG's) permitted
    by this system, yet the OS will only recognize 3.0 to 3.5 GIGs,
    is there any good reason to go for the max (4 GIGS) or just
    install 3 GIGS (1 gig x 2, 512 Mb'S x 2)
    (see below for data from the 'Crucial Memory' site)

    "Data:
    Memory:
    Technology: DDR SDRAM
    Memory Speed: 400 MHz (PC3200 )
    Data Integrity Check: Non-ECC
    Maximum Memory: 4096
    Number Of Slots: 4

    My Currently Installed Memory:  1GB
    4 256'S Modules - 1 GIG Total
    DDR PC2700 (333-MHz)

    Dual Channel Support:  Yes

    CPU Manufacturer:  GenuineIntel
    CPU Family: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz Model 2,
      Stepping 9
    CPU Speed:  2393 MHz

    Although the memory can be installed one module at a
    time, the best performance comes from using matched pairs
    of modules.

    Q: Will my system recognize the maximum upgrade?
    A: Possibly
    How much memory your Windows OS will recognize depends on
    which version of Windows you are running:
    32-bit versions of Windows will see (and utilize) only 3GB
    or 3.5GB.

    Q: How much memory can my computer handle?
    A: 4096MB.
    Adding the maximum amount of memory will improve performance
    and help extend the useful life of your system as you run
    increasingly demanding software applications in the future."
    **************************
    2) HARD DRIVES:

    Have:
    Drive C:
    Maxtor 6E020L0 (20 GIGS) original HD from 2003

    F: Drive:
    MAXTOR: 6L200MO (200 GIGS) (Bought & installed 11-'05)

    Bought Today: $87 on sale @ Best Buy)
    500 Gig SATA Western Digital (Caviar Green)
    (To replace the 20 GIG HD)

    Someone asked me if the motherboard supports SATA as a boot drive?

    I don't know the answer myself, other than to point to the HD data
    listed above, and that this PC is from 2003 (When SATA was initiated)
    and that the second HD (200 Gigs) was installed in 11-'05.

    I found this in the system information, under Storage\IDE:
    Primary & Secondary IDE Channels:
    (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)

    Finally, I opened up my user's manual and in the illustration of
    the  "System Board" are 2 slots labeled "Serial ATA Connectors" 
    (J8G2 & J8G1).

    I would upload a copy of the system board illustration to this forum, but I can't figue out how to do it.

    ( any help/tips on this appreciated)

    Is this info so far sufficient to answer that question??

    Anything else I need to look for??
    Is there any bad news that I need to know about this new HD??

    3) Video Card:

    Present one:
    (Display Adapter):
    NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X (Dell) 64Mb

    I am considering buying:
    VideoTek (HD 2400 AGP) 512 MB ($110)

    Best buy salesman says NVIDIA doesn't make the AGP at higher MB's
    anymore (true?)

    Any big-time problems known about this card??

    4) Has anybody had any experience with Dell's "DriveWire'?
    (See Below--info data from Dell site)

    "DriveWire is the ideal solution for transferring the data from a
    desktop or notebook PC to a new hard drive in a few easy steps.
    It makes what can otherwise be a daunting and tricky process, pain-
    less and easy.

    DriveWire is bundled with Apricorn's "Upgrade Suite" which features
    the award winning "EZ Gig II" cloning software for Windows and "Shirt
    Pocket's SuperDuper!" for Mac.

    When used together, DriveWire makes it easy to transfer your OS, data,
    applications, documents, address books, e-mail, settings and prefer-
    ences - from the old drive to a new drive, in few easy steps.

    Start by attaching the new 2.5" or 3.5" hard drive to the appropriate
    connector on DriveWire's cable head.
    Then connect the AC power adapter and the USB cable.

    Now, boot up your computer using the "Upgrade Suite" bootable CD and
    make an exact clone of the old drive onto a new drive.

    After the transfer is completed, install the new hard drive into the
    desktop or notebook, and the computer will boot up just like normal.

    DriveWire includes Apricorn's Upgrade Suite with EZ Gig II Cloning &
    Upgrade software for Windows and Shirt Pocket's SuperDuper! for Mac,
    a hybrid adapter that connects to any 2.5", 3.5" IDE/PATA or SATA
    Hard Drive, USB 2.0 cable (USB 1.1 compatible) and high quality UL
    Listed power adapter. This unique adapter provides a SATA connector
    for the new style drives as well as 44 pin connector for a 2.5" Note-
    book IDE/PATA Hard Drive and 40 pin connector for a standard 3.5"
    IDE/PATA Hard Drive, allowing you to connect a hard drive to any
    desktop or notebook computer with a USB 2.0 port.

    This is the perfect solution for anyone needing immediate or tempo-
    rary access to a Hard Drive. You won't need to buy a different en-
    closure for every Hard Drive or worry about whether or not you have
    enough power through your USB ports run the device. Because Drive-
    Wire is guaranteed to safely provide all the power you need and it
    is compatible with all of today's 2.5, 3.5 IDE/PATA or SATA Hard
    Drives.

    Manufacturer Part# : ADW-USB-KIT
    Dell Part# : A1287050

    What's in the Box

    1 x DriveWire Adapter
    1 x Apricorn Upgrade Suite includes:
    Windows:
    EZ Gig II Backup & Disaster Recovery Software,
    Macintosh: ShirtPocket SuperDuper!
    1 x USB Cable
    1 x AC Adapter
    1 x Quick Start Guide

    No need to reformat etc.

    Buy a new bigger drive and use a Drive Wire to Clone the
    Current Drive to the new drive using the included boot CD."

    Thanks for any helpful info.

  • Addendum:

    I've got the following Memory configuration (RAM):

    256MB DDR PC2700  256MB DDR PC3200 
    256MB DDR PC2700  256MB DDR PC3200

    What does DDR mean?

    I assume the the numbers 2700 & 3200 refer to clock speed. If so, does it make much of a difference if I install

    4 GIGS (maximum allowed) of 2700 or all in 3200?

    In other words, would I be able to tell the difference in performance between them.?

    Thank you for any info.