Dimension 4600 - The Largest Recognizable Drive?

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Dimension 4600 - The Largest Recognizable Drive?

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Hi Gang

Was wondering how far I can go, (the size capacity), that will be recognized by an older 4600? I hope to use an IDE to SATA adapter and try for a 500GB system drive? This will depend upon the OEM Bios setting - anyone know what it is?

Thanx

Mike

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  • The 4600 has SATA support, and should support any SATA hard drive, including the 4tb units now on the market.

  • ENIGMACODE

    The 4600 does not have SATA connectors - as I mentioned above, I'll need to pick up adapter connectors.

     
    ENIGMACODE
     
    The Dimension 4600 has two SATA connectors [J8G1+J8G2] on the motherboard, see here,
     
     
    In fact, the Dimension 4600 was one of the first Dell desktops sold, that supported SATA.
     
    Bev.

     

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  • ENIGMACODE
              
    J8G1+J8G2 on the motherboard are not the power connectors, they are the data connectors, the power connectors are part of the power supply's wiring harness.
     
    Assuming that the default power supply has not been replaced, you may need to buy 4-pin Molex to SATA adaptors, to connect the power to the SATA hard drives, plus two SATA 18" data cables.
     
    The primary [boot] SATA hard drive data cable needs to the J8G1 connector.
     
    Yes, you will need to enter the system setup and check that the SATA hard drives, are enabled [on].
     
    Yes, any hard drive can be formatted, allowing you to install windows on it, all you need to do, is delete all partitions, when prompted, followed by recreating them while installing XP-SP1
     
    Bev.

     

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  • Woops! Forgot to hit the space bar to SAVE changes - kept pressing ENTER - Formatting right now thank you. Oh and BTW, with regard to installing SP1, most people think I'm crazy. Well, yes it's a little risky, but this particular machine is dedicated to an old web design software called Sausage Page Wiz. It will only work in SP1. So I stay OFFLINE as I'm designing, then perform uploads, and I'm off. I never stay connected, or browse the internet with this machine.

    I'd like to thank eveyone for their help - I was given this machine for free - it's cosmetically perfect, like a new machine.

    I went out and picked up some cheap additional RAM, even bought a brand new ATI 256MB AGP Video Card for $35. And this 4600 beats my older 4100's.

    Hey - Anyone interested in #3 immaculate 4100's complete with all the original install software discs, keyboards and mice?

    Best

    Mike Fraticelli

        

  • Hi Mike,

    I had a 4100 a couple years ago that I couldn't even give away on Craig's list. It ended up in our local electronics recycle bin. Sad That case was so solid.

  • All is well now - Thank You Ron

  • ENIGMACODE

    Glad to hear the issue is resolved.

    Bev.

     

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  • "Search" in upper right-hand corner of the forum window is your friend. Wink

    Read this and this.

    If this answers your question, please click  Yes  

    Ron

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  • Hi ya Ron - nice to see you Big Smile

    Also found this post which mentions, (as I recall), I'll also need to flash the current A02 Bios FIRST - And upgrade it to A12 - Do you agree?

    en.community.dell.com/.../19775660.aspx

    And after this, I shouldn't have any problem using an IDE to SATA Adapter  - Like this one below - correct?

    en.community.dell.com/.../19775660.aspx

    Thanx

    Mike

  • The 4600 has SATA support, and should support any SATA hard drive, including the 4tb units now on the market.

  • The 4600 does not have SATA connectors - as I mentioned above, I'll need to pick up adapter connectors.

  • ENIGMACODE

    The 4600 does not have SATA connectors - as I mentioned above, I'll need to pick up adapter connectors.

     
    ENIGMACODE
     
    The Dimension 4600 has two SATA connectors [J8G1+J8G2] on the motherboard, see here,
     
     
    In fact, the Dimension 4600 was one of the first Dell desktops sold, that supported SATA.
     
    Bev.

     

    If my answer was helpful, please use the 'Did this answer the question' and click: Yes
    Forum Member since 2001
    I am not employed by Dell

  • Yep, I almost bought a 4600 mainboard on eBay for that reason (and that it had an AGP slot).

  • Thank you shesagordie & rdunnill

    They appear to supply Power for 2 SATA Drives - What about the Data Connections for 2 Sata Drives? Looks like still the old style ribbon?

    Thanks for all you help - BTW - Forgot to ask, I'll need to go into the Bios and choose SATA - Correct? And I found out the Bios was upgraded to version A10.

    One last question, is it possible to format/erase a drive which previously had XPSP3, and instead install XPSP1?

    Thanx

    Mike

  • ENIGMACODE
              
    J8G1+J8G2 on the motherboard are not the power connectors, they are the data connectors, the power connectors are part of the power supply's wiring harness.
     
    Assuming that the default power supply has not been replaced, you may need to buy 4-pin Molex to SATA adaptors, to connect the power to the SATA hard drives, plus two SATA 18" data cables.
     
    The primary [boot] SATA hard drive data cable needs to the J8G1 connector.
     
    Yes, you will need to enter the system setup and check that the SATA hard drives, are enabled [on].
     
    Yes, any hard drive can be formatted, allowing you to install windows on it, all you need to do, is delete all partitions, when prompted, followed by recreating them while installing XP-SP1
     
    Bev.

     

    If my answer was helpful, please use the 'Did this answer the question' and click: Yes
    Forum Member since 2001
    I am not employed by Dell

  • Hi Bev

    You're always very helpful. I'll take another look at the motherboard on the 4600 and take account of what I'll need to buy at the Microcenter. Maybe I'll even bring the machine with me. I actually have 3 old 4100's, and use them from time to time. My main machine is a 8400. But I also have 3 Mac G5's which I use mainly for Video and Audio. About the 4600; I would assume it's a bit faster than these older 4100's (being only 733mhz). The 4600 is about 2.4 Pent 4 and can take up to 4 GB's Ram.

    Somewhere I read that once you've installed SP3 in a particular drive, you couldn't reformat go back to SP1.  

    Thanx Bev

    Mike

  • ENIGMACODE

    Mike,

    Once the hard drive has been formatted, all the data is deleted and it becomes a bare drive, allowing you to install a new operating system.

    You can also, mount the hard drive in a working system as a secondary, or use an USB adaptor similar to THIS, then attach the hard drive to a USB port of a working computer, to format the drive.

    Bev.

     

     

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  • Here's a combo cable with both data and power connections: www.newegg.com/.../Product.aspx If you can wait a few days, save the gas and have Newegg ship it to your door.

    As for XP, I'd recommend staying with SP3, properly patched, as the earlier versions are highly vulnerable to malware.

  • shesagordie
    Once the hard drive has been formatted, all the data is deleted and it becomes a bare drive

    Actually, the data is still there after a format, and a forensics disk tool like Encase will find it. To truly delete the data (i.e. if the user were donating the hard drive) requires "wiping" the disk via overwriting each and every sector with zeros (or other data) multiple times.

  • Hi Guys

    Ran into a snag - it seems the J8G1port will not accept a SATA drive for a system. I tried 2 different SATA drives one 160GB, the other 500GB.- same result. I get the classic prompt: 'No Drive Present' or n/a. And BTW, the Bios is already at version A10. I don't think it's neccessary to go to A12 to get this machine to see a SATA drive.

    Looks like I'll have to go back to IDE

  • Is the drive's power cable connected? And if so, does the drive show in the BIOS?

    If the onboard SATA is malfunctioning, a third party SATA adapter like that which I installed in my 2350 should work.

  • Woops! Forgot to hit the space bar to SAVE changes - kept pressing ENTER - Formatting right now thank you. Oh and BTW, with regard to installing SP1, most people think I'm crazy. Well, yes it's a little risky, but this particular machine is dedicated to an old web design software called Sausage Page Wiz. It will only work in SP1. So I stay OFFLINE as I'm designing, then perform uploads, and I'm off. I never stay connected, or browse the internet with this machine.

    I'd like to thank eveyone for their help - I was given this machine for free - it's cosmetically perfect, like a new machine.

    I went out and picked up some cheap additional RAM, even bought a brand new ATI 256MB AGP Video Card for $35. And this 4600 beats my older 4100's.

    Hey - Anyone interested in #3 immaculate 4100's complete with all the original install software discs, keyboards and mice?

    Best

    Mike Fraticelli